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		<title>By: Chene</title>
		<link>http://mindfulconstruct.com/2009/02/05/what-is-codependency/#comment-82381</link>
		<dc:creator>Chene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 05:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin,

I&#039;m going on 3 yrs in my CODA recovery and while I will definitely say I am not fully recovered or &quot;there,&quot; I think I can safely say that I&#039;ve made a LOT of progress in changing my life to a more peaceful or sensible one. (Compared to the insanity I was facing prior to joining Codependents Anonymous) As practiced in the program, it&#039;s always about &quot;practice, not perfection&quot;... because perfectionism doesn&#039;t exist in this world! If it did, we would be playing God... and as far as I know, nothing is really perfect is it? Our computers aren&#039;t even perfect all the time. 

I don&#039;t know how far along you are in your recovery, but I can almost guarantee you that the further you go in your Step work, you will see that 99% of the interactions that happen out there with people (whether that&#039;s family, friends or strangers) is out of &quot;reactionary&quot; mode to you... versus for who you actually ARE in person or what you are DOING. 

I think that&#039;s the gift we get in recovery that unfortunately, most others don&#039;t... (well, people -can- get distinctions or certain tools from other programs and such, there isn&#039;t exactly a right way to everything).. is that -I get the concept that I&#039;m exactly where I&#039;m supposed to be, and I take care of myself first. I&#039;m not responsible for helping making others happy, although it&#039;s often difficult to not try to &quot;fix,&quot; but that&#039;s part of the process in practicing my program. I sometimes hate using the same CODA verbage, but it&#039;s true when you think about it... 

And yes, you are right when you say, &quot;healthy is considered &#039;sick&#039; by most people.&quot; I used to have major hang-up&#039;s with the word &quot;selfish&quot; because my Dad said I used to be one.. when he was the most selfish one of all. No, we are selfish because we love our Higher Power and ourselves first, then we can help be of service to others. :) That&#039;s real recovery. 

PS. Sorry.. I want to say thank you Melissa for having this site. I was looking for the subject of &quot;No Contact&quot; with former sick people (or co-dependents) and somehow landed on your page, not sure how. Always grateful to people who are here serving the untreated and suffering Co-dependent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going on 3 yrs in my CODA recovery and while I will definitely say I am not fully recovered or &#8220;there,&#8221; I think I can safely say that I&#8217;ve made a LOT of progress in changing my life to a more peaceful or sensible one. (Compared to the insanity I was facing prior to joining Codependents Anonymous) As practiced in the program, it&#8217;s always about &#8220;practice, not perfection&#8221;&#8230; because perfectionism doesn&#8217;t exist in this world! If it did, we would be playing God&#8230; and as far as I know, nothing is really perfect is it? Our computers aren&#8217;t even perfect all the time. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how far along you are in your recovery, but I can almost guarantee you that the further you go in your Step work, you will see that 99% of the interactions that happen out there with people (whether that&#8217;s family, friends or strangers) is out of &#8220;reactionary&#8221; mode to you&#8230; versus for who you actually ARE in person or what you are DOING. </p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s the gift we get in recovery that unfortunately, most others don&#8217;t&#8230; (well, people -can- get distinctions or certain tools from other programs and such, there isn&#8217;t exactly a right way to everything).. is that -I get the concept that I&#8217;m exactly where I&#8217;m supposed to be, and I take care of myself first. I&#8217;m not responsible for helping making others happy, although it&#8217;s often difficult to not try to &#8220;fix,&#8221; but that&#8217;s part of the process in practicing my program. I sometimes hate using the same CODA verbage, but it&#8217;s true when you think about it&#8230; </p>
<p>And yes, you are right when you say, &#8220;healthy is considered &#8216;sick&#8217; by most people.&#8221; I used to have major hang-up&#8217;s with the word &#8220;selfish&#8221; because my Dad said I used to be one.. when he was the most selfish one of all. No, we are selfish because we love our Higher Power and ourselves first, then we can help be of service to others. :) That&#8217;s real recovery. </p>
<p>PS. Sorry.. I want to say thank you Melissa for having this site. I was looking for the subject of &#8220;No Contact&#8221; with former sick people (or co-dependents) and somehow landed on your page, not sure how. Always grateful to people who are here serving the untreated and suffering Co-dependent.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://mindfulconstruct.com/2009/02/05/what-is-codependency/#comment-54104</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 00:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Codependency recovery is almost impossible.  I&#039;ve started my second year with Codependents Anonymous, and the &#039;healthy&#039; ways of interrelating are almost universally rejected by most people in our culture.  We&#039;re taught to invalidate others&#039; experiences, negate feelings, and fall into relationships too easily.  Everyone is encouraged to try to make everyone happy, instead of simply being with people wherever they might emotionally be.  It is a mixed blessing to be healthy, when healthy is considered &#039;sick&#039; by most people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Codependency recovery is almost impossible.  I&#8217;ve started my second year with Codependents Anonymous, and the &#8216;healthy&#8217; ways of interrelating are almost universally rejected by most people in our culture.  We&#8217;re taught to invalidate others&#8217; experiences, negate feelings, and fall into relationships too easily.  Everyone is encouraged to try to make everyone happy, instead of simply being with people wherever they might emotionally be.  It is a mixed blessing to be healthy, when healthy is considered &#8216;sick&#8217; by most people.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa Karnaze</title>
		<link>http://mindfulconstruct.com/2009/02/05/what-is-codependency/#comment-27999</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa Karnaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 00:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pali, I&#039;m not sure how to answer your question, did you mean to ask something more specific?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pali, I&#8217;m not sure how to answer your question, did you mean to ask something more specific?</p>
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		<title>By: pali</title>
		<link>http://mindfulconstruct.com/2009/02/05/what-is-codependency/#comment-27953</link>
		<dc:creator>pali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 11:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>love this... fantastic way of expressing a gifted hand .
here&#039;s one ... Do mormons stuggle with addiction ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>love this&#8230; fantastic way of expressing a gifted hand .<br />
here&#8217;s one &#8230; Do mormons stuggle with addiction ?</p>
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		<title>By: R Dougla</title>
		<link>http://mindfulconstruct.com/2009/02/05/what-is-codependency/#comment-20120</link>
		<dc:creator>R Dougla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 19:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I know I&#039;ve had a problem with being co-dependent for some time.  I was not nurtured as a child.  I have yet to be in a truely healthy relationship, I am 41 right now.  I am divorced with three-children. I have two boys, 16, 10 and a girl 14.  I do not (I repeat do not want my kids growing up to be co-dependent).  I am choosing today, -tearfully, to make a stand for myself.  I do not want to feel and/or be dependent on others in relation to: I can smile more if he calls. I will be a little said if he doesn&#039;t.  I don&#039;t want to and haven&#039;t wanted to live like this.  It is very scary and unsettling(sadly), because I feel inferior or small because of this problem.  But, hey, good for the desire for change.
I want to live to be a healthier person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I know I&#8217;ve had a problem with being co-dependent for some time.  I was not nurtured as a child.  I have yet to be in a truely healthy relationship, I am 41 right now.  I am divorced with three-children. I have two boys, 16, 10 and a girl 14.  I do not (I repeat do not want my kids growing up to be co-dependent).  I am choosing today, -tearfully, to make a stand for myself.  I do not want to feel and/or be dependent on others in relation to: I can smile more if he calls. I will be a little said if he doesn&#8217;t.  I don&#8217;t want to and haven&#8217;t wanted to live like this.  It is very scary and unsettling(sadly), because I feel inferior or small because of this problem.  But, hey, good for the desire for change.<br />
I want to live to be a healthier person.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa Karnaze</title>
		<link>http://mindfulconstruct.com/2009/02/05/what-is-codependency/#comment-3144</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa Karnaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 01:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you. :) Interesting thoughts about unifying wavelengths... I think ultimately doing that at an interdependent level leads to much better teamwork, productivity, and shared goal-reaching. Great things to reach for!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you. :) Interesting thoughts about unifying wavelengths&#8230; I think ultimately doing that at an interdependent level leads to much better teamwork, productivity, and shared goal-reaching. Great things to reach for!</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey Magic</title>
		<link>http://mindfulconstruct.com/2009/02/05/what-is-codependency/#comment-3140</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkey Magic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has been deeply etched in our social norms to be codependent. Starting from the fairy tales when we were little, codependency has run deep in our blood... The happily ever after image always includes a prince and a princess getting married. 

Then take all the drama showing on TV. Most of them always show that you have to go all out for love, even if it&#039;s unhealthy love, without it you will suffer in silence. 

This article is truly a breeze of fresh air, showing interdependence relationship which every one basically has to pursue. The happier and content we are with ourselves, the easier it will be to get people with the same wavelength together. 

Just found your site, and the content is just awesome... Thanks for sharing Melissa :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been deeply etched in our social norms to be codependent. Starting from the fairy tales when we were little, codependency has run deep in our blood&#8230; The happily ever after image always includes a prince and a princess getting married. </p>
<p>Then take all the drama showing on TV. Most of them always show that you have to go all out for love, even if it&#8217;s unhealthy love, without it you will suffer in silence. </p>
<p>This article is truly a breeze of fresh air, showing interdependence relationship which every one basically has to pursue. The happier and content we are with ourselves, the easier it will be to get people with the same wavelength together. </p>
<p>Just found your site, and the content is just awesome&#8230; Thanks for sharing Melissa :)</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa Karnaze</title>
		<link>http://mindfulconstruct.com/2009/02/05/what-is-codependency/#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa Karnaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura, great to see you again (Sure thing - I&#039;m still learning too :p). You&#039;re right, we are *immersed* in a culture of codependency. Have you read any of Anne Wilson Schaef&#039;s books? She writes about society being codependent, even down to the institutions of mental health and psychotherapy. She is pretty radical with her stance, but hits on some undeniable points about our ways of relating.

I really enjoyed your &lt;a href=&quot;http://ezinearticles.com/?Co-Dependency-and-the-Manager---Do-You-Dread-Discord?&amp;id=1419897&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;article&lt;/a&gt;, especially this quote: 

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Co-Dependency and the Manager - Do You Dread Discord?&quot;&gt;

&quot;...allowing another person to be responsible for themselves (even if that means occasional failure) is a very compassionate act.&quot;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What a profound lesson you learned from your students... and how great that it was a win-win when you let go of having to be responsible for them. Thanks for sharing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura, great to see you again (Sure thing &#8211; I&#8217;m still learning too :p). You&#8217;re right, we are *immersed* in a culture of codependency. Have you read any of Anne Wilson Schaef&#8217;s books? She writes about society being codependent, even down to the institutions of mental health and psychotherapy. She is pretty radical with her stance, but hits on some undeniable points about our ways of relating.</p>
<p>I really enjoyed your <a href="http://ezinearticles.com/?Co-Dependency-and-the-Manager---Do-You-Dread-Discord?&#038;id=1419897" rel="nofollow">article</a>, especially this quote: </p>
<blockquote cite="Co-Dependency and the Manager - Do You Dread Discord?">
<p>&#8220;&#8230;allowing another person to be responsible for themselves (even if that means occasional failure) is a very compassionate act.&#8221;
</p></blockquote>
<p>What a profound lesson you learned from your students&#8230; and how great that it was a win-win when you let go of having to be responsible for them. Thanks for sharing!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Lewis-Barr</title>
		<link>http://mindfulconstruct.com/2009/02/05/what-is-codependency/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Lewis-Barr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Melissa,
We are really on the same wavelength!  (Thanks for the trackback btw--I&#039;m still learning about such things!)  This is SUCH an important issue.  I&#039;ve been examining it from a workplace standpoint.  Codependency is so standard in our culture that we don&#039;t even see it most of the time.  It is the water we swim in.  Thanks for this important article.  If you&#039;re curious about mine, it is on the article page on my website.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Melissa,<br />
We are really on the same wavelength!  (Thanks for the trackback btw&#8211;I&#8217;m still learning about such things!)  This is SUCH an important issue.  I&#8217;ve been examining it from a workplace standpoint.  Codependency is so standard in our culture that we don&#8217;t even see it most of the time.  It is the water we swim in.  Thanks for this important article.  If you&#8217;re curious about mine, it is on the article page on my website&#8230;..</p>
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