Comments on: Dysfunctional Beliefs and You http://mindfulconstruct.com/2009/05/21/dysfunctional-beliefs-and-you/ Wed, 23 May 2012 20:33:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Brooke http://mindfulconstruct.com/2009/05/21/dysfunctional-beliefs-and-you/#comment-52429 Brooke Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:10:23 +0000 http://mindfulconstruct.com/?p=1072#comment-52429 If you really want to get abstract, couldn't everything you've described above just as easily be applied to faith in Psychology? Honestly, is Religion and Psychology really that different? I don't know; it's just a question I've often asked myself. Personally, I don't subscribe to either. If you really want to get abstract, couldn’t everything you’ve described above just as easily be applied to faith in Psychology?

Honestly, is Religion and Psychology really that different?

I don’t know; it’s just a question I’ve often asked myself.

Personally, I don’t subscribe to either.

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]]> By: Melissa Karnaze http://mindfulconstruct.com/2009/05/21/dysfunctional-beliefs-and-you/#comment-4409 Melissa Karnaze Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:03:52 +0000 http://mindfulconstruct.com/?p=1072#comment-4409 Faby, thank you for sharing your story. I'm happy to hear you're finding your own way and moving on. :) Faby, thank you for sharing your story. I’m happy to hear you’re finding your own way and moving on. :)

]]> By: Faby http://mindfulconstruct.com/2009/05/21/dysfunctional-beliefs-and-you/#comment-4389 Faby Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:38:57 +0000 http://mindfulconstruct.com/?p=1072#comment-4389 It is so refreshing to read your blog, to both my mind and my emotions. It has been a very bumpy road over the last year when I found the courage to leave a high control group. I have finally found the motivation to find out more about 'why' it happened to me and the people I love; to let the guilt go; to accept that uncertainty isn't necessarily unhealthy and to take small steps forward to a better and happier life. Thanks so much for your advice and great articles! It is so refreshing to read your blog, to both my mind and my emotions. It has been a very bumpy road over the last year when I found the courage to leave a high control group. I have finally found the motivation to find out more about ‘why’ it happened to me and the people I love; to let the guilt go; to accept that uncertainty isn’t necessarily unhealthy and to take small steps forward to a better and happier life.
Thanks so much for your advice and great articles!

]]> By: Melissa Karnaze http://mindfulconstruct.com/2009/05/21/dysfunctional-beliefs-and-you/#comment-3985 Melissa Karnaze Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:08:41 +0000 http://mindfulconstruct.com/?p=1072#comment-3985 Haider, I would love to see you explore the dysfunctional beliefs that were passed onto you, on your blog, or even here if you wanted to. :) That tactic of making the practitioner the problem, and not the practice, is really enforced by guilt and fear. I hope to learn more about how people make the transition from blaming themselves to blaming the beliefs. <blockquote>"It’s essential that we not only highlight the negative effects of dysfunctional beliefs, but to develop an intellectual argument against them, so that the victims can hopefully realize how flawed their reasoning is."</blockquote> Yes, and this is another area I would like to learn more about. Because the emotional component is key. Sometimes you can have an intellectual understanding of certain things without really believing them, because your subconscious thoughts and emotions are still gridlocked in the old patter. And other times, you won't have a thorough intellectual understanding *until* you understand it emotionally -- meaning there's little to no subconscious residue of the dysfunctional belief. Heidi, another reader and blogger, went through the exercise of rewriting <a href='http://mindfulconstruct.com/2009/06/28/dysfunctional-beliefs-of-a-jehovahs-witness-apostate/#comment-3904' rel="nofollow">this list</a> of dysfunctional Jehovah's Witness beliefs <a href='http://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/2010/01/10/rewriting-the-jw-implanted-belief-list' rel="nofollow">here</a>. From reading through them, I could see that many if not all of the rewrites took years of experience and reflection to develop. Haider, I would love to see you explore the dysfunctional beliefs that were passed onto you, on your blog, or even here if you wanted to. :)

That tactic of making the practitioner the problem, and not the practice, is really enforced by guilt and fear. I hope to learn more about how people make the transition from blaming themselves to blaming the beliefs.

“It’s essential that we not only highlight the negative effects of dysfunctional beliefs, but to develop an intellectual argument against them, so that the victims can hopefully realize how flawed their reasoning is.”

Yes, and this is another area I would like to learn more about. Because the emotional component is key. Sometimes you can have an intellectual understanding of certain things without really believing them, because your subconscious thoughts and emotions are still gridlocked in the old patter. And other times, you won’t have a thorough intellectual understanding *until* you understand it emotionally — meaning there’s little to no subconscious residue of the dysfunctional belief.

Heidi, another reader and blogger, went through the exercise of rewriting this list of dysfunctional Jehovah’s Witness beliefs here. From reading through them, I could see that many if not all of the rewrites took years of experience and reflection to develop.

]]> By: Haider http://mindfulconstruct.com/2009/05/21/dysfunctional-beliefs-and-you/#comment-3965 Haider Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:50:48 +0000 http://mindfulconstruct.com/?p=1072#comment-3965 Dysfunctional beliefs is a topic I'd like to address in my blog, especially since I was raised with quite a few dysfunctional religious beliefs, the remnants of which still linger in my psyche. It's extremely difficult to escape from a dysfunctional belief system, because you can always construct a rationale to justify dysfunctional beliefs and their damaging effects. The typical religious attitude towards the harms of dysfunctional beliefs is that you must blame the practitioner and not the practice. If you're not getting good results, then you're not doing it right. So, ultimately, the blame is on you and not the beliefs! And the delusion continues. It's essential that we not only highlight the negative effects of dysfunctional beliefs, but to develop an intellectual argument against them, so that the victims can hopefully realize how flawed their reasoning is. Dysfunctional beliefs is a topic I’d like to address in my blog, especially since I was raised with quite a few dysfunctional religious beliefs, the remnants of which still linger in my psyche.

It’s extremely difficult to escape from a dysfunctional belief system, because you can always construct a rationale to justify dysfunctional beliefs and their damaging effects. The typical religious attitude towards the harms of dysfunctional beliefs is that you must blame the practitioner and not the practice. If you’re not getting good results, then you’re not doing it right. So, ultimately, the blame is on you and not the beliefs!

And the delusion continues.

It’s essential that we not only highlight the negative effects of dysfunctional beliefs, but to develop an intellectual argument against them, so that the victims can hopefully realize how flawed their reasoning is.

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